The CWS Impact STORM STRONG from Window World were the same price: $33, 000 for 31 windows. Assuming the installation quality is equal, I'd go with the less expensive option. In the PGT WindGuard Aluminum line the black or bronze is only available on both the exterior and interior. We have a lot of openings (20- some of which are very large) so we knew this would be an expensive project. Depending on the "defects", I think you will, contractually, need to give them the opportunity to remake the product and deliver it in specification. 1 - 25 x 62 Headquartered in Ocala, Florida, the company has been in business since 1986 and serves most of Florida through dealer networks -- i.e. When there is a spread like that, something is usually incorrect or behind the scenes wrong. Any thoughts or suggestions are greatly appreciated. Dane - Site Editor - from 2018, Hi Dane, I live in Clearwater Florida and would appreciate your advice on my 2 final choices/quotes. They will be removing all the old windows and installing all the new ones clean up delivery building permit, all included. CWS Windows get 4.2 out of 5 stars based on the 36 CWS windows reviews below. It will cost me approx $800 more to go with the PGT windows. Frank - Homeowner - from 2021, Frank, while I know that the CWS 8100 vinyl impact window is good, I'm not sure how much better it is than the 6100 Coastal series. I will ask around if I can find someone. I would go back and tell them if they can do it for $10,250, you will sign today and see what they say. Jeromy, that price is much more in line with what I was thinking. Per side I believe. I was going to contract with a local Diamond rated PGT Dealer (Weather Tite) and then Paradise Exteriors offered to drop their estimate for the Soft-Lits to almost the same amount. FHA actually reached out and they now have a double hung CWS and they are able to install them for $10,750. PGT Innovations is also the nation's largest manufacturer of impact-resistant windows and doors, holds the leadership position in its primary markets, and is part of the S&P SmallCap 400 Index. Tim - Site Editor - from 2016. If you wanted a third option, I'd look for a local rep from them. Dane - Site Editor - from 2017, Hi Tim. I haven't found an independent Simonton dealer for my zip code yet but I will check on PGT and CWS as well. PGT Custom Windows + Doors main competitors are Agc Glass Company North America, Carpenter Technology, and Air System Components. Tim - Site Editor - from 2018, -- Estimated CWS 600 Costs: $650 to $800 installed -- I am concerned about the adhesion and life of the paint on the vinyl. Since this room is going to be 90 percent window, I really want to make sure we have at least a mid-grade window. I have spent a lot of time calling around and havent been able to get quotes for Soft-Lite. 2 - 50 x 60 Picture Curious about your final installation experience Nicole and Janice? Is this true? Susan - Homeowner - from 2018, Susan, I'm not sure if that too high, but it does appear to be quite expensive at first glance. Elaine - Homeowner - from 2021, Im replacing a large slider door in Destin Florida. I would absoutely get a bid from PGT on their WinGuard window. What are your thoughts? Poor Customer Service all around, you expect when you spend that kind of. The installers concur that they are difficult to open and close. Is the CWS Aria series windows really of bad quality? I had definitely heard good things about PGT, but I've never heard of CWS and was curious what their deal is and whether the prices seem in line. They stand behind their work and actually, all the homes I visited on the water had either, builder used PGT on his own waterfront home, window but I don't think they have the experience or, install PGT again plus get the most relaible installer, possible that was a Diamond dealer for PGT, and hire them. I'm no expert, only sharing what I read. " "How about ECO window systems in Florida; how do they compare with PGT". CWS Windpact Series Impact will cost considerably more, but obviously they are much more durable. Hopefully the experts here can correct me if that's wrong. We did a window job together several years ago. Dane or Tim 3 size H62 x W 52 Beyond that, as I understand it, aluminum can last longer, but unless well maintained is more prone to degradation by salt water. SIX YEARS AGO WE BOUGHT OVER $47,000.00 WINDOWS AND SLIDERS (7 SLIDERS) - as of yesterday I just filed / called for replacement of our fourth sliding glass panel doors - these are the Miami Dade double insulated with all the extras - failing. WINGUARD ENERGYVUE Hi - Looking to build a new home down in Florida on the waterfront. Assuming the company doing the install is professional and offers quality services, you should be well served with either one of these products. Set Your Home Apart with Creatively Placed Picture Windows, Aluminum Vs. Vinyl: 7 Key Things To Look For When Choosing a Window Frame. There are only two manufacturers that have decent designs and color choices, Custom Window Systems and PGT windows. (assumes medium patio door and normal installation), Hi Dane, I purchased a condo with a CWS dark brown vinyl storm door which has 2 vertical glass sections, with the bottom section moveable to accommodate a screen. Cherry or white cabinets in updated kitchen? Then I think you go with CWS, otherwise the VantagePointe is probably the better value. If you want any further information we did boatloads of research on all the impact Windows. CWS Windows Reviews Thank you, Shar. The 8200 windows are 5' and 6' wide. I would ask the people there which window has a better track record and go with their recommendation. Project is ongoing as I write. Stephanie - Homeowner - from 2022, Stephanie, that is disturbing. Most times the factory will pay for only the window and force the homeowner to use only it's factory sponsored labor (at a high rate) to try to offset the loss of product value. I am also of the mindset to pay for quality. You enjoy uncompromised quality from the newest advances in . I am SO GLAD I got all those quotes) I narrowed it down to 2. Products designed specifically for hurricane impact zones in Florida and other coastal markets. (assumes medium sized window and normal installation), I'm in NE Florida and have 20 windows of varying sizes, along with two sliding glass doors, both rather large. That is for labor, materials, permits and tax. The bid total comes out to $104/sq ft. and includes any remediation that might be required if we have to fix/replace damaged or rotten wood. Tim - Site Editor - from 2016, Do you have any suggestions on which brands to look at for our cold Michigan winters? I would always go with a more known brand when in doubt because there is more data available to make your decision. Their Armor or Barcelona series are going to be preferable the Durashield. All the windows with exception of one small bath window are considered oversized. We have 5 openings, 3 of which require two windows each. I'd get a couple more bids to compare it to -- an impact window from PGT, Sunrise, Soft-Lite and Simonton if you can. They work with these series every day and they will have the exact specs and number variations for each of their two products. What is the price difference between the two series? $11,500.00 Simonton 9800 Tim - Site Editor, Hi Dane, this company offer lifetime guarantee however it is a way of making money. The same bid from PGT was $21,345. Which window is best and why? Wiltrack Construction And Development Group LLC. We fell in love with the product claims, the low heat transfer and easy operation. I asked about aluminum frames and was told you could only do aluminum in new construction.". PGT has no regard for small customers. They are about 12 years old. Brands that were previously the "standard" are just like everyone else (used to be) and turning out stuff with QA/QC issues. CWS Aria 610 Series Windows and 8800 Series Doors: $24k PGT 5500 new winguard vinyl series which are triple pane, laminated, and insulated with lowE coating. When I had companies out to quote, I asked about aluminum frames and was told you could only do aluminum in new construction. PGT created the PremierVue 2700 series, Anderson brought the A-Series with Stormwatch, and EAS introduced the . Give me your ideas, thank you. I think it offers better long term value over the first bid. Established in 1980 and headquartered in Nokomis, Florida, PGT Custom Windows + Doors is a manufacturer and distributor of building materials. Once you do that, then I think you'll have the information you need to make your decision. One is proposing Custom Window Systems 8000 series for about 5.5k for 9 windows, and the other would install softlite Imperial LS for 6.7k. 11 vinyl impact windows in all. Tim - Site Editor - from 2018, Thank you Tim! One 62 x 36 and So far, I like the CWS product but cant get any intel on the EAS product. But I'm prepared to be in sticker shock. Thanks in advance for your assistance. Well made and constructed. Use that first bid as leverage to see how low that PGT dealer/company is willing to go for your business. The company we bought the window/sliders from does not like going thru all the trouble to replace and then reinstall.they can charge me whatever price they want for labor. PGT doors add convenience and style to any room. Of course, if there was a big price difference between the two, I think you'd certainly have to take that into consideration. I would say the two windows you have bids for are very close in quality. What style shutter with my Tudor Revival? I trust the contractor doing the installation. It does however use a pocket sill, which funnels water through the frame and out weep holes. their work is being monitored ,and the owner really cares. The Window Experts Address:101 NE 3 Avenue Fort Lauderdale, FL. Tim - Site Editor - from 2020, Dane, Tim, Good afternoon. The doors are of a very sturdy, nice-looking quality. Patio Door Reviews | Storm Strong Series Meredith - Homeowner - from 2018, Meredith, I think the CWS and PGT quotes are worth the extra money over the AmCraft. I am trying to determine which is the better protection. Does the warranty cover just the cost of the window so that the labor of replacement is put on the homeowner? I live outside the HVHZ in the Orlando Area but Hurricane Charley in 2004 was a Cat3 that caused major damage. The following are eight Florida ENERGY STAR window manufacturers. This would be an answer that the CWS rep who gives you a bid should have. Feeling ripped off My understanding is that the Durashield is Soft-Lite's entry level impact window. Susan - Homeowner - from 2018, Susan, this sounds like a first bid but not their final price. They are particularly known for their "hurricane" windows or impact windows for coastal homes. Dane - Site Editor - from 2015, We live in the southwest section of Florida and recently received a bid for hurricane windows on our home - 10 windows in all. seems like they use PGT windows. While the one from Weather Tite for PGT is 1$2,800. . FAS is coming out today. Kind Regards, Since Hurricane Andrew in 1992, PGT Custom Windows + Doors has remained dedicated to researching and developing impact-resistant windows and doors to keep people and buildings safe from the next big storm. I've had very few issues with them and when they did the company worked with me to make sure that everything was worked out to the customers satisfaction. Will the vinyl ones hold up as well as the aluminum ina tropical storm or hurricane? The second quote is for PGT HR5410 sliders and SH5400 single hung windows (not sure which sliding glass doors this quote includes) for $10,921.00. Which option do you think is better? The other is CWS single hung windows for just over $12,000. Amy - Homeowner - from 2022, Amy, I would say this is a coin flip for me, with a subtle push for the CWS Windpact option. See All Windows Doors I just had a window replacement guy out at the house to give a quote. I think PGT has a bit better brand recognition, but I wouldn't say their windows are any better. Not at all to large for a properly engineered unit. The company enjoys a good reputation and makes a solid window at relatively affordable prices. Do you have a suggestion where I could get one? We have 2 more companies seeing us this week that will give us quotes. CWS has a very good reputation in the industry. I am planning on going with non-impact windows, and after getting 11 quotes (don't believe anybody who tells you to get only 2 or 3: this does NOT apply to Florida. 2 - 52 x 75 I am just going to pray that all goes well and I have a positive experience! Unfortunately Fla. and impact product in general is not well represented by window pros here on the forum. Custom Windows Systems has manufactured high quality windows and doors since 1986. The price difference is approximately $593. Everyone knows PGT. PGT Estimate: $63K (using PGT patio sliders) CWS is coming in at nearly $9,000 less than PGT!!! Those two windows are pretty close in terms of quality and construction to the PGT5500. The Simonton has the best warranty but Im more concerned about the quality of the product and appearance and not the warranty (since all three have a good warranty). Back of Home Remodel: Patio and Window Design, Adding small windows to sides of fireplace. Your Location Where you live should also be considered when deciding between aluminum and vinyl frames. CWS is a MUCH smaller operation -- Simonton is the largest manufacturer in the business. If HD could prove to me that their install crew would do a great job with my project, I would seriously consider that option. Deborah - Homeowner - from 2019, Deborah, the CWS Aria seems to be a decent product for an entry level window. My biggest concern is getting a good product at a fair price. Sorry, but I really have to do my due diligence and check with the BBB for reviews and see if the CWS 8100 is worth the price he was quoting us. Is the price reasonable? Have a great day and thanks again. Just stay away from their entry level windows. If you are considering PGT's - READ the warranty. Thank you! 8 all those windows are high performance glass package with Solar Zone elite. Price: $12,687 for the following: These windows should never have been delivered to our home for installation. NewSouth Window Solutions 7. I would definitely consider this this options for my home (if I required impact windows or doors) The 8100, 8200 and 8400 (available series or model numbers) can be ordered in a standard white, adobe or boronze, as well as an upgraded veneer color options that include natural cherry, anodized, golden oak, bronze, black cherry and medium maple. Dane - Site Editor - from 2016, -- Estimated CWS 8100 Costs: $600 to $750 installed -- And, we don't want to continue replacing window after window for who knows how long. PGT Windguard Vinyl Impact Resistant Windows, Eastern Architectural ERTHA Series Vinyl Windows & Doors. Fred - Homeowner - from 2021, Fred, I don't have a lock on the differences between these two series. The Company expects its net leverage ratio at closing to be approximately 2 . Cabana Door is oversized on length but narrower than standard widths. $8800. PGT is the nation's leading manufacturer and supplier of residential impact-resistant windows and doors. Headquartered in Ocala, Florida, the company has been in business since 1986 and serves most of Florida through dealer networks -- i.e. CWS Aria 650 Series Windows and PGT 5470 Series Doors: $29k That is as important as picking the best windows. I would say local companies that carry PGT, Sunrise, Okna, Soft-Lite, Zen, Polaris, Vytec, and Simonton would all be good brands to pursue. The rest of the windows were replaced when I bought the home in 2014 by the GC who did my remodel, as they were leaking and it could not wait. Even with the addition of these inhibitors, the southern sun restricts the lifespan of these windows. Window Pricing: PGT Windows prices vary according to style of window and the size of window selected. I would say this, either go with the Simonton and find an experienced installer yourself or see if you can get that CWS bid down to $10K. It will cost me approx $800 more to go with the PGT windows. PGT 5500 new winguard vinyl series which are triple pane, laminated, and insulated with lowE coating. Two quotes so far: Karlovy, who or neighbors used and liked, but we have a few Simeonton windows and the vinyl frames in the south windows are chalky (it's only been 5 years since install--non south facing windows are fine). Thank you so very much! Over 30 windows and they did it in about 5 days. Dane - Site Editor - from 2021, -- Estimated CWS Patio Door Price: $1,600 to $2,750 installed -- Lisa - Homeowner - from 2016, Lisa, I don't know much about Storm Tight, I did a bit of checking and they seem ok, I noticed a few people had some negative reviews that centered on slick sales presentations and poor customer service, but that doesn't mean much. Do the same with CWS, Custom Window Systems, and see what their bid comes in at. Lots of research ongoing. We purchased PGT Winguard Vinyl, Grey Tint, 1816 Charcoal screens, TC4: Marine Turtle Protection, Argon Gas, Low E: Energy Shield Max, Raised OGEE grid on the interior and exterior. Bill - Homeowner - from 2017, We are looking to replace 8 single pane Windows with hurricane impact Windows. I've personally installed hundreds of them (thousands? This is also for the replacement of one cast windowsill inside and out. He was really pushing EAS windows. I read a lot about PGT and CWS brands on your website. Any advantages/disadvantages between the two? You don't need to sacrifice substance for style; we design each window for smooth operation and quality performance. Both are quality products from what I know of the two. How does that sound? Unfortunately there was no screen left behind. I am replacing 8 windows DO NOT BUY PGT WINDOWS! PGT has resources and ideas to get you started. I do kind of like the idea of getting windows from a factory in the state in which you live, but I'm not sure there is anything really rational in the thought, I think it just gives me a piece of mind for some reason. I would say you need two or three more bids to round out the estimates. I know that PGT is in our budget but suspect the others wont be. Custom Window Systems offers quite a few impact vinyl models and series, all of which are listed below. All the windows use impact glass with a Low-E 366 tempered glass package. Perhaps Lowes' or Home Depot? 31 windows in all. Windstorm Inspection Program TDI Product Evaluation Index Product Evaluation - Vinyl Fixed Windows Windstorm Inspections Appointed Engineers Building Code Building Products Catastrophe Zone Map Certificate of Compliance (WPI-8) Search Contacts Education FAIR resources Field Offices Forms Product Evaluations Subscriptions Testing Facilities TWIA
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